The #1 Legal Muscle Building Supplement That Actually Works (and will probably be banned soon)

[Note: It appears Super DMZ will be a banned product very soon and the company of manufacture has stopped producing it. Never fear, there are two legal muscle building supplements that actually work. They are Osta Shred and Anafuse. Read more about them here –> The Best Legal Alternative to Steroids.]

As we have told you many times before here at the premises of pain most sports and muscle building supplements do not work as advertised. Big time sports and muscle stars sell these silly supplements to supplement their income, nothing more. They won’t openly sell you the real deal (though many do, underground) because it is illegal. They also do not truly want to give away their secrets and face more competition. It takes a sociopathic mind to sell you bunk supplements and say they are the real deal muscle builders, but as these people will openly say “They will do anything to get to the top“.

So the Regular Joe down at Regular Joe’s gym has three options:

1) The White Hat method of building muscle

He can go the legal route, and what he thinks is the real deal route, and try and put on muscle the old fashioned way – through sweat and hard work. All the time he’s training hard he’s looking over at the guy next to him who’s curling 20 lb dumbells and has 18 loaded guns for arms. The kid’s thinking to himself “I just need to work harder! One day, with the right diet and training, I will look like that! I better get a protein shake in before I lose my gains! If only I had his genetics!“. This method is all well and good for a year or two but a wall will be reached that can never be climbed without help.

2) The Black Hat method of building muscle

Go to the dark side. The real deal way that all bodybuilders, athletes, movie stars and other assorted jacked men use to get jacked – anabolic steroids, human growth hormone, diuretics, and if he really wants to be a freak, insulin. For this all he has to do is go onto the internet, place an order, send money, receive product and start using. Before he knows it people are saying “You are so muscular! Oh my god!”. He feels like a God. After all that wasted time in the gym trying to build muscle the way the muscle magazines said got him next to nothing. A simple week or two and now he knows the truth. Maybe he pays a price with his health, maybe he doesn’t. Maybe he gets in trouble with Johnny Law, maybe he doesn’t. One thing is for sure – he is a jacked mother.

3) The Grey Hat method of building muscle

If one doesn’t want to go to the dark side for fear of Johnny Law knocking on his door, but still has a taste for real muscle, he has options. His options are called DESIGNER STEROIDS (sometimes called PRO HORMONES). Designer steroids are really just steroids that found legal loopholes and are legally available for purchase (that is, until they are banned by Johnny Law). The biggest big dog in the Designer Steroid world is called Superdrol (scientific name Methasterone). Superdrol was a beast. Superdrol was a real and true steroid. Superdrol would get you jacked before breakfast. A lot of sports stars relied on Superdrol. Superdrol now exists in a legal grey area and is not readily available.

However, clever scientists and marketers have been able to reproduce the magic of Superdrol by using the same ingredients and giving the product a different name.

Today, there is one rightful heir to the throne of best legal supplement. This product has nearly the same exact recipe as Superdrol except it has an addition of 10mg of a molecule called Dimathazine, which, by all accounts, makes it the superior product for muscle building and muscle hardening. Make no mistake, this product works better than any other supplement you can buy at your local vitamin shop.

What is this product?

“The #1 Legal Muscle building supplement that actually works…”



[UPDATE: So sorry but you are too late, Super DMZ has been banned. Check out The Best Legal Alternative to Steroids to find the best current legal muscle building supplements.]

Super-DMZ is the real deal. It is not a protein shake or glutamine or nitric oxide or any other baloney sold in the magazines. It is a potent oral steroid which will give you lean muscular gains in a short time frame. By all accounts Super-DMZ gives much the same muscle building benefits (without the harsh sides) as the illegal oral steroid Dianabol. Because it is so effective care should be given to how you take it, who takes it, and the length of time you take it.

Super-DMZ is an over the counter legal product that contains 10mg of Superdrol and 10mg of Dimethazine per capsule. Dimethazine is two steroid molecules bound together by a nitrogen atom. Upon ingestion, stomach acid separates the two steroid molecules that closely resemble methyldrostanolone (Superdrol) Therefore Super DMZ contains both Superdrol and Dimethazine. Dimethazine once broken down is similar to Superdrol though.

“Super DMZ is a potent oral steroid that should illicit solid gains in lean body mass with little water or fat gain depending on diet… What struck me the most about this steroid is how rapid and dry my gains were. It reminded me of a faster acting, dryer Dianabol. However Super DMZ rx is much stronger mg for mg than Dianabol. Users of Super-DMZ can expect to add 8-12lbs of lean body mass in just 3-4 weeks. I personally had no noticeable side effects from Super-DMZ at 2 capsules daily for 4 weeks. Super DMZ rx is a strong, clean steroid that can be used to increase lean mass, strength and power with little to no water retention in short periods of time.”

“Hands down the strongest oral steroid I have ever used. Super DMZ is a clean version of SD.”

“I put on about 17 pounds over 6 weeks.”

“Lean, dry gains. Burning pumps in my arms when I’m washing my hair or brushing my teeth. The scale weight jumped quick, the way it does with dbol, but without the puffy-ness.”

“I have not taken it, my best friend has…gained LEAN weight FAST, not too much water retention, back pumps were horrible but overall loved his cycle. Gained about 14lbs”

“It fuckin’ great….Super DMZ is the brand name for the steroid “Dimethazine”, which is a very potent steroid, exceeding the potency of steroids such as Anadrol and Dianabol mg for mg. It has been sold as a script drug in Italy and Mexico as long ago as the 60’s, but I believe was discontinued after about a decade…as were many steroids from the past. It is very closely related to Methasteron (SD) and will cause more muscle fiber growth than any other commonly used oral. It is a non-aromatizing, potently anabolic, moderately androgenic, steroid. Outward sides are low, but it is hell on most people’s cholesterol, as are many orals. It is also fairly toxic, exceeding Anadrol in toxicity, according to medical studies. In other words, it’s one of the most toxic oral steroids commonly used today, but also one of the most effective. Among today’s commonly used orals, only SD and M1T surpass its ability to build muscle fiber over a 3-4 week period. Lean, water free gains of 12-17 lbs in 30 days are very common, the average. Steroids like Anadrol may cause greater overall weight gains in some circumstances, but a much smaller percentage of Anadrol’s weight gains are muscle fiber. Gains with Dimeth are very well maintained compared to aromatizing drugs, such as D-bol and Drol. Strength gains are also very good with this drug, as they are with its parent drug, SD.

“It’s great….. 16lbs in 28days! 15 of it comin in 21days. Bench went up 35lbs with a pause in that time, more with touch and go.”

Super-DMZ should only be used by healthy adults at least 21 years old. Do not exceed the recommended dose or duration of 4 weeks. Do not use if you are at risk of, or being treated for diabetes, liver problems or high blood pressure. Do not drink alcohol while using this product, and increase daily water intake. This product can negatively affect male fertility. Always consult your health care professional before using any dietary supplements.

If you want to get jacked the legal way this is how you do it, friends.

Get ready to hear the ladies say “Oh my god!” when they touch your arms and abs.

You can buy Super-DMZ 2.0 here.

PS – Review sources can be found here and here.

PPS – BOLD & DETERMINED is not your Doctor and is not advising you take these products. Read up before you beast up.

PPPS – Super DMZ is banned now. The best current legal supplements can be found here.

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  1. Marquise says

    Good read

    I probably would of tried this maybe 3 years ago

    But the best and safest supplement that ever worked for me was liver powder, the overall benefit to not just strength and muscle, but overall health cannot be beat.

    Good toilet read nonetheless ( where I do my miscellaneous reading at)

    • Victor Pride says


      Liver is good stuff, especially for health, but the 2 products are worlds apart in re: muscle building.

      • Marquise says

        Of course there worlds apart, one u can take everyday with no side effects and help increase your natural testosterone.

        The other u gotta take 4 Weeks and then have a PCT to restore your natural test and libido levels.

        Health and strength is just more important than cosmetic appearance IMO.

        • John Malley says

          I realize this is over 2 years old, but Marquise, there is no such thing as “increasing testosterone”. It is a static limitation set by your genetics, unless you are taking something tetragenic like…radiation tablets, you have been sold junk.

          • alan2102 says

            John: there may not be such thing as “increasing testosterone” in the sense of inducing more testicular production (actually, there IS: luteinizing hormone; but we’ll leave that aside), but there is a lot more involved than just production. There’s also distribution, metabolism and cellular sensitivity (i.e. receptor state). Maybe Marquise’s liver idea has an influence on one or more of those things.

  2. J.R. says

    I think you should make aware that this is not a good starting cycle – there are more mild and less potent cycles to begin with with are better suited for people just starting into this game. As well, don’t attempt this if you don’t have a PCT set up, or for that matter know what a PCT is.

    • Matt says

      My first post….I am 40 yrs old and seeking to do an initial cycle, I would like some guidance on how to do a 4-12 week cycle. I was extremely active in my 20s and 30s, but I can tell that I cant build muscle like I did when I was younger. I would like to gain about 5-10 lbs of solid muscle. Would Super DMZ work for me? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
      thanks in advance.

    • says

      What is PCT,, I wanna gain muscle and gain fast,,, I have a huge problem gaining muscle period,, I get stronger but no size,, I’m 6 1 and 150lbs and most I’ve ever got to is 160 and I’m 28 yrs old.. I’ve tried a bunch of supplements,,

      • Chris says

        You need to fucking EAT MORE. Solid nutritionally dense food. Not 3 meals + 3 shakes. You need to eat MORE FOOD. End of story.

    • Silo399 says

      What is a good starting cycle for beginners? I have been working out for a good 2yrs and just started body of a spartan.

  3. Chris says

    Too much of an honest man but be sure to post up your results if you kids take it. Victor, would prefer to see the other articles that were voted on – are they still on the way?

  4. says

    I’ll give this a try but am detoxing my liver right now

    I will say, the best program I have ever tried is that Big Beyond Belief program that Tom Platz is promotiing on his shirt

    Its based on Bulgarian weight lifting principles, but applied to bodybuilding

    Did that in college while my friends were juicing(I was clean, and doing the Anabolic diet…basically steak and eggs and hamburger patties for 5 days, pizza and ice cream etc for 2 days)

    My results smoked theirs

    With that said, if some dude was screaming at me like Platz is in this picture, I would smack him one

    • Victor Pride says


      Yes, many do use it for cutting as well as bulking. Anything that increases lean muscle mass must also, by very definition, burn fat.

  5. says

    Vic, thanks for the heads up about this. I had stagnated and sweet Jesus Christ, this is wickedly anabolic. I’ve upped 8lbs in just short of 2 weeks and strength is through the roof. (315lb shoulder presses for one). Keeping a close eye on potential sides and keeping the liver detoxed as much as possible, while upping protein by double. PCT will be the deciding factor in keeping the gains, but gentlemen, this is no bullshit serious gear.

  6. John doe says

    Go youtube Kai green training vids. I guarantee you will learn more and save $100, that guy is a wealth of knowledge on training!!!

  7. M. R. says

    Hey Vic,

    You know any substances besides steroids that increase your testosterone and help you get jacked? As much as I want to get jacked, the potential side effects to me aren’t worth it right now. …. ask me in a couple years though when I hit 30 and I might be singing a different tune.

  8. Hamish says

    In no time at all the ladies will be saying “Oh my God!” at how jacked you are…..and then “Oh……” and how unjacked you are downstairs

  9. Victor Pride says


    Today, August 28th, is the very last day you will be able to purchase Super-DMZ legally. It’s going bye-bye tomorrow. If you ever wanted to try it now is the only time you have left. Get you some today while the gettin’s good. Starting tomorrow it is a banned substance.

  10. King Dan the Great says

    Do you still recommend this product? Its Nearly fall and time to put my shirt back on. Also, time to experiment.

  11. manuel says

    Hey Victor
    im 16 years old and i was wondering if i could use this product for a 1 month cycle .
    would it be safe to use for my age?
    or could i start by taking 1 pill a day?

  12. Seekay says

    Victor, this is very dissapointing! In one article
    you say people that use steroids are cheaters. This is not an anabolic
    steroid but it has the same effect. Cheating!
    Also you use the same marketing strat of using a pic of a guy
    that is obviously doing steroids!
    Very misleading and confussing.
    Im a huge fan of this site but now I feel
    kinda betrayed….

  13. Eric says

    Sucks this is banned. I’m having serious trouble trying to maintain a decent lifting schedule while training BJJ, I could really use something like this because diet alone aint cutting it. I get ridiculous DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) from lifting, and from some of jiu jitsu workouts/rolling sessions and I’ve been rolling steady for 3 years. I’ve always had the DOMS problem with lifting but was able to get around it by splitting up muscle groups.

    My diet is on point – steak, bison, chicken thighs, broccoli/spinach, sweet potatoes/quinoa. I’m going to try working in more eggs after reading your stuff. I have no illusions of being weightlifter-jacked if I’m committed to BJJ, but at this point trying to get 2 good lifts in a week is a challenge because if I put a good set of squats I’m hurting, no lie, for a good 3-4 days. It’s always like this even when I was lifting 5-6 days a week (coming off an knee injury at the moment so it’s even worse). Not the ouch it hurts I can’t roll bc I’m a pussy sore, but literally, I can’t do the fucking move sore and this now this guy I normally beat the fuck out of is mopping the floor with me

    • Victor Pride says

      ^It has come to my attention that you can still get Superdrol at a few places. I was looking the other day and found several sites that sell it. In re: soreness, that’s the worst thing about training naturally, the soreness can get overwhelming and sports stars use “supplements” to aid in recovery. However, superdrol is something you should only run for about a month at a time, it is not a real long-term solution.

  14. Taylor says


    Are you currently using AAS? If so can you explain your cycle and if you ever come off etc? I am seriously considering them and would like your advice on a first cycle.


  15. Antonio says

    Hey, how safe is this stuff? Has anyone here ever used Herbalife’s rebuild strength? That is what I currently use now and I works wonders with building muscle along with muscle recovery. Any questions hit me up!

    • Aaron says

      Hey Antonio im interested to hear about herballife im currently excersing to get abit bigger but want to be toned aswell as I like my sports in general not sure about roids they seem to crazy at the moment im using a bcaas a protein shake called syntha 6 but only just started using it im a beginner at weight lifting and want some guidance to find the best ways to boost my muscles in a healthy way as im only 24 years old, would appreciate it if you could give me some information thank you

    • says

      Just down a few eggs, chow on some turmeric, whole peppers – that will be better than the expensive Herbalife soy based products.

  16. Terrence says

    Question, I’m not new to the fitness world nor am I new to having the desire to looking a certain way. Although I am new to such products. My interest have grown to possibly test them out, but I Dnt know exactly what I really need. If I purchased this item, would I need to intake with a item for my liver as well?

  17. says

    Hi Victor

    i have tried the gym many times over the years as well as protein shakes etc.. and still i can’t seem to build any kind of muscle. my arms are as thin as they were back when i was like 10yrs old (i’m 32 now) the only weight i do put on goes to my legs and waist. never my chest or arms.
    i have extreme low self esteem and dont know what else to do. therefor i’ve started to look at steroids and how/if they can help. i don’t have a great job which means not much money to go around but if you have anything that could help me, i would be very thankfull

  18. George-haciendero says

    In my first days of building mass guess what i used: “eggs” true. Gained me some 10 or 15 lbs but t is true even with HIT method or DC you would only reach a certain ammount of growth. But as a healthcare proffesional myself I would reccomend that bodybuilders pass up with these “jackers” for at least untill they have reached the full potential of their genetics. then after two or three years under your belt and you still want more, either you hire Charles Glass (or me) or its time to jack up

  19. Kris says


    Are there any side effects towards the body ? “shrinkage” or adrenal, kidney, or liver fatigue.

  20. Co says

    Hey Vic!

    need your advice! Hope you´re doing well!

    Just got my Xtreme DMZ today from the strong supplement shop, i had some minor acne months ago, which is completely gone, without leaving any scars or something similar. And that shit really sucks, now my question is, do you think i will get that again by taking DMZ for 4 Weeks?

    I´m thinking of 16mg a day, maybe going up to 32 mg the last two weeks.

    Thank you in advance and regards from Germany

    • Victor Pride says

      I don’t know my friend. I did get some acne on my back when I used that stuff a year ago, but it is completely individual. Maybe you will get it, maybe you won’t.

      • Co says

        i don´t care having some acne on my back.
        Last question:

        Dosage at 16mg , to low? What do you think.

        First time for me with steroids, and i am a little confused with all that guys telling me how terrible dangerous it is, and on the other end that guys with any sense for responsbility telling me that it´s healthy.

        You don´t want to mess up with your vitality, it´s a major part of success to be healthy, but i also want to get over that plateau i am on with my muscles.


        PD: Body of a spartan still available? Could be a good combination with my DMZ and the 30 days of a discipline, i already have.

        • Victor Pride says

          Start at 16mg for a few days and see how you react, then bump it up and see how you react. Some people feel like death on superdrol, some people feel great. BOAS is still available.

          • Aleki says

            Hey Victor, I’m 18 yrs old, I’ve been intense training or two weeks now, trying to get back in shape for football cuz I’m going to college, should I do a 4 week cycle? Because I’m all natural right now.

          • Victor Pride says

            No. Absolutely not. Learn how to train and eat before you play around with your hormones.

  21. Co says

    took my first pill 20 min. ago. Can´t wait to train tomorrow!
    What was your dosage, Vic?

    regards from Germany!

    • Victor Pride says

      30mg-50mg per day with Sundays off. But start low, many many people do not react well to sdrol.

  22. Co says

    I´m taking it now for 8 days, and i´m noticing some strong effects, my muscles are like blown up. Looks great!

    I´ve been searching for hours on the internet to figure out how it works, what is it doing inside my body? Do you know it?

    Is it elevating my testosteronelevel?I´d be really thankful for an answer.

    regards from Germany

  23. Kit says

    Come on Victor, don’t bad mouth protein. Anyone who is successful at building his body knows protein is THE key macronutrient- and thus supplements like protein shakes are absolutely necessary. You could take this pro-hormone I’ve never heard of religiously, but if you are nitrogen negative i.e. not supplying your body with the aminos it needs to grow, you will do nothing but make yourself really sore while giving your liver and kidneys an unnecessary workout. And of course you have the click through link for your kickback- just saying. If however you are covering all of the other basics like ripping apart the gym intelligently, then I do doubt that this supplement would be effective. I personally draw the line at creatine for supps, the white hat method works just fine if you have iron will and dogged determination. Just ask Greg Plitt.

    • Kit says

      I meant to say, I do NOT doubt that this supplement would be effective. My bad for not proof reading.

    • Victor Pride says

      Bud, you’re out of your mind. You tell me natty training is the way to go and list a juicehead as proof. And you doubt this supplement will work? Superdrol is the most effective oral on planet earth for building muscle. Come back and speak as an authority when you know what you’re talking about.

      • giorgos says

        creatine is great, it works and it is the most studied supplement…pro hormones is not a supplement its steroid and for that reason it works great,but it is not good for your health oral steroids its not good for the liver..i prefer to stay natural and as for supplements i took olny protein and creatine and works fine with no side effects..its not scam these two supplements!! i believe that i can build a very good physique like rob riches with many years of hard training and perfect diet…victor in other topic you say how to ged big naturally ,11 bodybuilding tips to help you get jacked…sorry man i respect you but am comfused and skeptical..

          • giorgos says

            how do you know all this things??about steroids, what is natural or not, how much muscle we can build naturally???about genetics???how do you know all this??

          • Victor Pride says

            My friend I am not natural and I know instantly when someone is lying about being natty. The first clue is when they make a big fuss about being natty, that should tell you right off the bat they are lying. I don’t even know that Rob Riches guy, I just googled his picture and it’s obvious as a punch in the mouth that he is geared up beyond belief. Natural in fantasy world. There is no natural body on this earth that looks like that. Not from 5 years training, not from 500 years training. If you want to stay natural, great, but you’ll never look like that guy and he’s selling you poop and you’re eating it up and asking for seconds. If the guy is claiming natural he is a lying scumbag. Anyone that puts “natural” before their name is a juicer, 100% guarantee (if they look good) because, and listen to me, it is impossible for a human body to look like that without exogenous hormones and fat burners.

  24. paul gouveia says

    aloha vic , need to ask ya straight up do ya think this product supports joint health, mine are dying and from rear disorder called avascular necrosis, had hip and shoulder replaced already dont need bother ya with details i heard this line of treatment may be an answer but nobody can give any real solutions im 46 in good shape

    • Victor Pride says

      No, superdrol may dry them out even further. The real treatment for joint health is nandrolone which is available as part of a TRT/HRT program.

  25. anonymous says

    Hi Vic,

    Its a shame to hear that you think Rob Riches is definitely geared up (from the point of view that even with many years of max effort one can not look like that naturally) so I would ask if you could give examples of the best physique you can attain naturally as a point of reference.

    Also, want made you decide to stop being natty? Was it just the end physique was really that underwhelming? How “jacked” would you say you were at 190lbs before you started taking? I gather from your posts that you are on permanently rather than cycling (makes sense imo)?

    What do you take and what do you weigh now? I’ve never had any desire to be “huge” as I think its quite a bad look but I guess have always hoped I could achieve a physique on a level similar to Rob’s naturally with many years of effort- that’s about as muscular as I want to be as an end goal. What do you suppose he takes?

    I know that’s a lot of questions and that I’m being a demanding pain in the ass but I’d be grateful for any answers you could give!
    Thanks in advance!

    • Victor Pride says

      Dusty, I’ve never tried 2.0 so I can’t say. From what I HEAR it’s, good, but that’s hearsay not Victor say.

  26. Co says

    I just stopped my DMZ 3 days ago. I´m now thinking of starting TRT, i have a very good connection to a german drugstore, so i become the real Testosterone of Eifelfango (the best one) or Schering (also very good).

    I´m thinking of injecting every 7 days 125ml, so my T increases to 14mg in my Blood. That wouldn´t be too high, but i would be over the normal level of 10mg (already considered very high) , most guys today have 4-6mg.

    Do you think that would be a good idea? maybe with a kickindose of 500ml the first week, then 250ml the second and then 125ml the next 10 Weeks.

    • Victor Pride says

      Co, I don’t know your age or anything about you but 125mg is a very mild dose but would be more than enough to give you an increase in performance and recovery.

  27. Pman9595 says

    Aye victor im 17 years old and I want to use this cause I have trouble keeping weight on my body and been really curious of using it got any tips

    • Victor Pride says

      Do you lift weights and eat? Eat a lot to keep weight on. Most skinny guys who think they “eat so much” barely eat anything.

  28. says

    Im 22 years old and im takin exstreme dmz how often should i take the pct with it. And i do accasionally drink what should i take for supports because i have shooting paines sometimes now

  29. KJ Barnes says

    Victor, for someone whose 24 and about to go on their first roid cycle, would you recommend intermittent fasting prior to a morning workout, followed by a plethora of calories throughout the day after the workout? Or would breakfast be pertinent prior to going to the gym?

    I ask because it seems like the Tom Venuto approach (six meals a day and a big breakfast) was custom made for juicers.

  30. brian says

    I’m 23 yrs old and I’m not a gym buff. I’ve tried dedicated fitness routines but I get so frustrated with The fact that I’m not seeing any development. I’m trying to loose the stubborn bellyfat and increase my muscle size. I’m short 5’6” and my arms have never increased size I got on a good diet in regards to cutting out sodas and snacks and such, but I mostly just monitor what I am eating and how much. Any advice

  31. says

    I came back here to see if there was any DMZ chatter now that it was banned and seemingly its 2 replacements have been banned as well. Gentlemen, this compound is a beast, literally 30lbs is possible in a month (i got 27)…..however, if you dont know what or when to PCT and even ask about drinking with it..dont take it.

  32. T and A Man says

    The brand written at the time of this article came from IronMagLabs.

    I only see it (by reference to brand name) now being made by blackstone. Is it the same product?

    • Victor Pride says

      No, the IML product is no more. Now it’s called Super DMZ 2.0, I have never tried it so I can’t speak for it. Maybe they changed a molecule to make it legal, I don’t know. I think Blackstone is IML. They are affiliated 100%.

  33. Darren says

    Vic, I came across this website while reading about Modafinil. I am a narcoleptic and my neurologist has me on Modafinil 200mg x 2 daily. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy & sleep apnea in 2009 when I was 31. I used to take Nuvigil until January of this year when my insurance no longer covered Nuvigil and my Dr. switched me over to Modafinil which is a geneic for Provigil. I’m 35 now, 5′ 9″, and weigh 245 lbs. My Dr. wants me at 185 lbs. I’ve worked out on & off since I was 20. Back then a group of us worked out at Gold’s Gym 5 days a week. We were doing some serious lifting and growing. I had 18″ inch guns back then! I ceased all working out at age 23 when I got married, but started back here at home after my divorce at age 30. I’ve gotten lazy and haven’t touched any weights in almost 3 yrs. now. I talked to my Dr. back in January of this year about prescribing me testosterone and regulating it. My blood work showed that my T-levels were a low normal and she doesn’t want to experiment with it until my sleep gets regulated & I lose some weight. Vic, I understand the importance of sleep. When you hit REM sleep is where your body repairs itself and creates hormones. But being a narcoleptic my sleep will never be regulated and I’m too tired to work out. I have no motivation or drive. I stay down a lot emotionally and my sex drive is totally gone! I don’t have problems building muscle. I’m thick and have a solid frame. My arms, chest, & shoulders remain tight even with no lifting and my thighs & calves are naturally big. My problem is my gut & midsection. And any time I start working out my arms always grow the fastest and seem to put on size in no time. I know how to eat, diet, and work out, but at 35 and being narcoleptic I have no drive or motivation to do anything. Being 35 and the father of 3 kids obviously I don’t want to mess around with steroids or anything illegal. I don’t judge the guys who do, but at my age & stage in life it’s not for me. My desire is to put on some muscle mass and lean down to 185 lbs. without killing myself with lifting, cardio, & diet alone. Three summers ago I weighed 225 lbs. and I was eating proper, lifting 4-5 days a week, and walking 3+ miles a day with a weighted vest. I was able to put on some muscle and I dropped to 200 lbs. but I never could go below 200 lbs. no matter how hard I pushed it and tweaked my diet. By Thanksgiving of that year I said, “Screw it!” and I haven’t worked out since. I’m honest enough to admit that I need some help, especially at 35, because now it’s harder to work out and maintain than it was when I was 20. Vic, I appreciate your honesty and being realistic in the fact that we need help in getting the bodies that we want. I apologize for such a lengthy post, but I wanted to give you as much info. so you could properly evaluate me. What do recommend for me to do?

    • Coach Kidd says

      Portion management: You probably eat too much too fast. Try eating smaller meals more often throughout the day. Essentially, your doctor is telling you the right things. You’ve got to lose weight. There is a correlation between sleep apnea and being over weight. Don’t buy any fat-burners you’ll be throwing money away. There are some natural weight loss supplements that may help you. Make sure you learn the difference between fat-burners, fat blockers, and weight loss supplements. You’ll need to do some of your own research, but the key is to be discipline in your diet, hydration, and sleep. You’ll need to possibly make a life chart to document the areas you’re lacking in. Make a life chart documenting your food intake, sleep, hydration, and exercise every 24 hours for one week. From this you should be able to see some common yet critical mistakes that you’ll need to correct.

  34. KJ Barnes says

    Here’s a question for you Victor…

    Will superdrol get you jacked quicker than injectable testosterone like Test E or Test Cyp?

    And if so, would you say that it’s worth it, even though there will no doubt be more side effects?

    • Victor Pride says

      ASSUMING YOU ARE LEAN superdrol wins, hands down no contest. Test E or Cyp takes weeks to months to notice, superdrol takes 3 days to notice. Is it worth it? Can’t decide that for you.

  35. says

    I literally just bought ImageSports Cycle 7 because the guy at GNC recommended it. I might have to return it and get this super DMZ stuff, because there were a lot of mixed reviews on the cycle 7.

  36. Jason Rowley says

    Ever heard of Xtreme DMZ by Anabolic Technologies? I’m assuming it’s the nextgen legal form of DMZ. And assuming it’s legit, can I get away with just doing 1 one-month cycle to breakthrough my plateau? I’m 33 and been lifting for years and I’m not really interested in becoming dependent on either dmz or testosterone to maintain my gains, just want to put on and keep 5 – 10 lbs through continued dieting and lifting after the one time cycle. Is this possible?

    • Victor Pride says

      The good product is superdrol, not dmz. Look for a product with superdrol. I haven’t used any solely dmz product so I won’t speak for it’s effectivity.

  37. adrian says

    Most of u guys need to harden the fuck and just train harder! I am 30 and have been training for 9 months lost 10 kg of fat and put on 8 kg of muscle! most people don’t train hard. Do squats, deads fucking all the free weights fuck u don’t need roids! Just man the fuck up and train.

  38. Markos says

    This DMZ Rx IS a steroid. It will fuck you up. It will permanently disrupt your t-levels, especially if you’re a young man. Just because this product is legal does not mean it does not have serious side-effects. DMZ Rx should NOT be taken by younger men, full damn stop. Be careful. You cannot take that t level back.

  39. dalton says

    Is there any non steroid pill that helps define muscle without working out lol and if there are some out there I would like one without any bad side affects if I ever stop using The medicine..

    Thank you for your time

  40. Sam says

    I like your website and post, however you should put the necessity of PCT (Serm or OTC) and On cycle therapy or else a lot of eager people could end up with bitchtits.

    Love your website though man.

  41. Leyland says

    Hi all,

    I came across this website today and need advise i have tried all the natural ways to gain muscle but it is not going any where, so how would this product work and help and diet plan to go with it ?

  42. Kev says

    I love Super DMz I’ve done 2 Cycles bin the last 8 months with taking off 3 weeks for detox, I take only one a day everyday that way it’s not too quick of a jolt on my body , bc this stuff works bookoo fast!, never used any PCT coming off just kept a high protein diet and cardio bc when your on it your joints get so sore you won’t want to jog and stain those hips and knees, needless to say its awesome stuff

  43. brad says

    Hey is this stuff still available and what does pct mean? I wanna get big if I stop taken these and keep training will I stay big? I’m in Australia

    • PM says

      you have to learn about pct. its post cycle therapy. its even more important than the steroids cycle itself.

  44. George says

    Hey Victor,
    I want to take the new SuperDMZ 3.0 for 4 weeks and was wondering a couple things. What will it do to my liver? What will it do to my hormones? And do I have to take something after I finish to fix my hormones, if so what?

    • Victor Pride says

      George, people all react different. Your body will fix it’s own hormone balance though, PCT is a smart way to scam people who don’t know what they’re doing out of money. I really DON’T recommend you take products like this as a one off. When you use things like this you should be prepared to use hormones for the long haul. If you’re not prepared to do that, no reason to use this product.

  45. cheygon says

    im 18 i got some fat on me and muscle but i want to be riped i just found out about dmz 3.0 need help is it the best suppument to take i need to get riped fast i got muscle but to much fat and i need to know fast please help someone and what are the side of fecks please help and if it is not the best suppument to get ripped fast what is and what is the cheapest im 18 185 pounds i eat so much protien cabs fats just cant get the body please reply

  46. talhimst says

    Hey victor, i’m 22y and i want to get hard muscle, is this product good for me, i also play soccer at a big club, can i take it while playing soccer?

  47. disappointed says

    I tried this super dmz not too pleased u wanna build muscle fast get on the real shit…honestly I’ve never felt better and the only side effect I’ve seen is my grocery bill….

  48. Theo says

    so if i take this like a couple times and then stop will i loose all my muslce and start turning fat do i have to consistently take the supplement in order to maintain my muscle?

  49. Jon says

    “All the time he’s training hard he’s looking over at the guy next to him who’s curling 20 lb dumbells and has 18 loaded guns for arms. The kid’s thinking to himself “I just need to work harder! One day, with the right diet and training, I will look like that!”

    20 lb dumbells – wow! :D

    Um, the first time I ever stepped in a gym as a skinny little kid, I could curl more than that. 20 lbs is some seriously light weight dude. Even if you meant 20 kgs – it’s still very attainable with even a tiny bit of effort naturally.

    • Victor Pride says

      Jon I don’t feel like embarrassing you today so just read the article again and again until you put 2 and 2 together.

    • pm says

      well thats because you dont know that you can build huge arms doing super slow reps for maximum contraction of the muscle with light weight. I use 25 lbs dumbbells this way sometimes and I cant do more than 8 reps. and my max for bicep curl is 60 lbs x 5 so…

  50. cwaoroyd99 says


    I am looking to get in the best athletic shape I can in the next six months for an NFL try out. I bought JYM Alpha JYM to supplement my workouts. I am trying to determine a good workout plan. Do you recommend the program?

    If you were looking out for my health and wellness, while best supporting my muscle gain and athletic performance, what would you recommend me?


  51. Michael says

    Will someone please give me food advice. I don’t know what to use . I am 5 ft 11in. N 155 . I have long muscles but can’t gain any muscle mass no matter how much I eat or what I trey to use for supplement. IM 36 but look like IM 25 max. Cam anyone please help me with this . Please IM begging . IM sick of being the scronnie guy… it’s making me insecure. ..

  52. John henderson says

    I was hoping to get a response to my previous question above. On October 26. I’m not on any supplements of any sort at this time, I’ve been off them for a few weeks. So please respond as soon as you can on my question above

  53. T.M. says

    Hey Vic,

    It seems to me that some of what you said above is false from my own personal experience. You state that natural guys can’t look like Glitt or Riches, but my own experience tells me otherwise. I am 5’5″, 218 lbs, 9-10% bf. The only things I use that boost my Test are Jym Alpha, and I use Myo-X (I take it at 1:00 in the afternoon so that it peaks while I sleep). Before Jym Alpha, I just took TestFreak or Methyl Arimatest. I am 30 years old. I have huge, high volume workouts (12-14 exercises, 3-4 sets each), linear periodization microcycles, with Rest Pauses or Drop Sets on the last set of every exercise. Further, I pre-exhaust every muscle group with single joint exercises. I follow strict tempo, and the time between sets is strict 30-60 seconds depending on how heavy I am lifting. I workout 4 days a week. Further, I don’t do cardio at all. Rather, I follow an extremely strict ketogenic (high protein, moderate fat, almost no carb) diet. This keeps me lean. At 5’5″, I hardly know anyone as big as me and as ripped. I guess, technically, I am not “natural” because I take testosterone supporting supplements, but I have never taken steroids (although, I imagine if I ever compete I will). I guess what I am trying to say is, I am very big (although I don’t think I can get any bigger without roids) and lean. I eat 3400 calories a day, 65% pro, 30% fat, 5% carb, drink 1.5 gal water a day, take 22 Bev. Inter. Beef Liver tabs a day (included in my protein count), use 100% Premium Beef Protein for my shakes (Muscle Tech’s essential series), I split my micronutrients up so they don’t interfere with eachother (like separating Vit. D, Calcium, Zinc, Magnesium from my regular multi, which doesn’t have those vitamins). Anyway, maybe this all seems too complicated, but I think most guys could have similar results if they were as disciplined. Do you think I am full of shit or do I just have awesome genetics?



    • Victor Pride says

      “Do you think I am full of shit or do I just have awesome genetics?”

      The first one. If you had awesome genetics you wouldn’t be 5’5. You aren’t 218 lbs under 10%. If you are 218 lbs you are mega fat unless you’re a seasoned gear veteran. Period.

  54. Priyan says

    hey , victor ..
    I been doin gym from last three years , I ‘ve found my body never grows , I tried protein shake , creatine and all these stuffs and I been training 5 to 6 days a week and eating 4to 5 meal everyday , but nothing happen yet , do you have any advice or suggestion for , that’s will be great

  55. Aidan says

    Lots of people say Super DMZ 1/2/3 are ‘too strong’ to be someone’s first PH cycle. What is your take?

    Was Super DMZ 1.0 your first cycle, or did you try something else first?

    • Victor Pride says

      “Lots of people say Super DMZ 1/2/3 are ‘too strong’ to be someone’s first PH cycle.”

      Lots of people are morons. Too strong? Try taking taking your vitamins and saying your prayers instead.

      “What is your take?”

      Did you skip reading the article and go directly to wasting my time with this question? I already wrote “my take”.

  56. says

    Hell ya I ran a 30 day blast with this shit last summer and I got sick strength gains off of it. I did not get too much size as I do off of dbol but I really got a harder more aesthetic physique from it, no question.

  57. Sergio says


    I’m seriously considering getting this.

    Are you sure this stuff is outlawed? I found it easily on Ebay.

    Do you think it’s the real deal?

  58. David C says

    Legal ‘roids don’t buy it people–here are a list of the bodybuilders who have died in recent years–

    The Last Callout: The Dead
    Mike Matarazzo
    In the 1960s, Iron Man publisher Peary Rader wrote an editorial to address the issue of steroids in bodybuilding and to warn readers not to get involved with the drugs.

    In the 50+ years since his article, plenty of bodybuilders have misused or abused steroids and other PEDs and have paid the ultimate price:
    1.   Mike Matarazzo: Frequent top 10 IFBB pro from 1992 to 2001. Four-time top 5 finisher at the Night of Champions. Died from a heart attack in 2014, age 47.
    2.   Dan Puckett: 1st place 2006 NPC Collegiate National Heavyweight. Died from heart failure in 2007, age 22.
    3.   Scott Klein: Four-time NPC Heavyweight competitor (1995 and 1997), two-time NPC super-heavyweight competitor (1998 and 2000). Died from kidney failure in 2003, age 30.
    4.   Robert Benavente: Competed in multiple NPC shows from 1994 (teen division) to 2003 (1st place in Southern States). Died from a heart attack in 2004, age 30.
    5.   Trevor Smith: Bodybuilding writer and coach. Never competed, but weighed over 400 pounds. Died from a heart attack in 2004, age 30.
    6.   Andreas Munzer: 13 top-five placings from 1986-96. Considered a “pioneer” in the use of diuretics for a super-peeled look. Died from multiple organ failure in 1996, age 32.
    7.   Mohammed Benaziza: Seven total Grand Prix wins in 1990 and 1992, 1st place at the 1990 Night of Champions (beating Dorian Yates), two top 5 Mr. Olympia showings (1989 and 1992). Died from heart failure hours after winning the Grand Prix Holland show in 1992, age 33.
    8.   Daniele Seccarecci: IFBB competitor from 2007 to 2013. 2010 Guinness World Record Holder for “heaviest competitive bodybuilder” at 297 pounds. Died from a heart attack in 2013, age 33.
    9.   Luke Wood: IFBB competitor from 2001 to 2008, often breaking into the top 10. Died from complications following a kidney transplant in 2011, age 35.
    10.   Chris Janusz: Amateur competitor, nutrition coach, and contest prep consultant. Died from undisclosed causes in 2009, age 37.
    11.   Art Atwood: Consistent top 10 finisher in IFBB shows from 2002 to 2004, including 1st at the 2002 Toronto Pro. Died from a heart attack in 2011, age 37.
    12.   Mat Duvall: Four-time top 3 finisher in NPC Super-heavyweight division (1999, 2001, 2002, 1st in 2003). Died from a heart attack in 2013, age 40.
    13.   Ed Van Amsterdam: European champion in the mid-1990s, frequent top 10 IFBB finisher in 2002 and 2003. Died from a heart attack in 2014, age 40.
    14.   Fannie Barrios: Two-time Jan Tana winner (2001, 2002). Three top 8 placings at Ms. Olympia (3rd place in 2002). Died from a stroke in 2005, age 41.
    15.   Charles Durr: Six top 5 NPC and IFBB finishes from 1988 to 1999. Competed in the 2004 IFBB North American Championships. Died from a heart attack in 2005, age 44.
    16.   Anthony D’Arezzo: Three-time top 10 NPC Heavyweight (1993, 1994, 1995). 1st at NPC New England in 1997. Died from a heart attack the night before a contest in 2006, age 44.
    17.   Greg Kovacs: Competed in several IFBB shows from 1997 to 2005. Known in the industry as one of the largest off-season bodybuilders, regularly weighing over 400 pounds. Died from heart failure in 2013, age 44.
    18.   Ron Teufel: 1978 IFBB Mr. USA. Runner-up to Samir Bannout at 1979 World Amateurs. Top 10 IFBB competitor in 1981 and 1982. Died from liver failure in 2002, age 45.
    19.   Hans Hopstaken: NPC Masters competitor in 1998 and 1999. IFBB competitor in 2000 and 2001, including two top 5 placings at the Masters Olympia. Died from heart failure in 2002, age 45.
    20.   Frank Hillebrand: Light-heavyweight champion (1987, 1989), several top 10 IFBB finishes from 1990 to 1993. Died from a heart attack in 2011, age 45.
    21.   Alex Azarian: NPC competitor from 2002 to 2009, including a total of five 1st place wins. Training, nutrition, and contest prep consultant. Died from undisclosed causes in 2015, age 45.
    22.   Ray Mentzer: IFBB competitor from 1979 to 1982 including 1st place 1978 Mr. USA, and several top 3 placings. Died from kidney failure in 2001, age 47.
    23.   Nasser El Sonbaty: Frequent top 8 IFBB competitor from 1990 to 1992, consistent top 4 finisher in shows from 1993 to 1998, including 2nd at the 1997 Mr. Olympia and 3rd at the 1995 and 1998 Olympias. Died from complications from heart and kidney failure in 2014, age 47.
    24.   Don Ross: Amateur competitor from 1965 to 1972, pro bodybuilder from 1973 to 1980 with 10 top 5 placings. Died from a heart attack in 1995, age 49.
    25.   Mike Mentzer: Consistent top 3 IFBB pro from 1975 to 1979, including 2nd in the 1976 and 1977 Mr. Universe, 1st place 1976 Mr. America, and 1st place 1979 heavyweight Mr. Olympia (lost the Overall to Frank Zane). First pro bodybuilder to be awarded a perfect score in a contest. Died from heart complications in 2001, age 49.
    26.   Don Youngblood: NPC and IFBB Masters competitor from 1994 to 2002. 2nd place at the 2001 Masters Olympia and winning 1st in the 2002 Masters Olympia. Died from a heart attack in 2005, age 49.
    27.   Stoil Stoilov: NPC and IFBB Masters competitor from 2005 to 2014. Died in 2014 one week after placing 2nd at a National show, age 49.
    28.   Terri Harris: Frequent top 5 finisher in NPC and IFBB shows from 2002 to 2012, including several 1st place wins in 2011 and 2012. Died from a heart attack two days after a contest in 2013, age 50.
    29.   Ed Kawak: 5-time Mr. Universe (1982-1985, 1993). IFBB competitor in 1996 and 1999. Died from a heart attack in 2006, age 51.
    30.   Vince Comerford: Amateur competitor from 1984 to 1986. 1st place Middleweight at 1987 NPC Nationals (lost the Overall to Shawn Ray). IFBB competitor in 1989 and 1990. Died from a heart attack in 2014, age 52.
    31.   Greg DeFerro: 1979 IFBB Mr. International, five top 4 placing in IFBB shows from 1981-1984, including 2nd to Lee Haney at the ’83 Night of Champions. Died from heart disease in 2007, age 53.

    The Dead Pool?

    These bodybuilders are thankfully still alive at the time of this writing, but have suffered major health issues.
    Tom Prince 1.   Tom Prince: NPC competitor from 1995 to 1997, including 1st place at the 1997 Nationals. IFBB competitor from 1999 to 2002. Suffered kidney failure during contest prep in 2003, age 34. Retired in 2004, eventually received a kidney transplant in 2012.

    2.   Don Long: NPC Light-heavyweight (1992) and Heavyweight (1993 to 1995). Frequent top 10 IFBB pro from 1996 to 1999. Suffered kidney failure in 1999, age 34. Received a kidney transplant in 2002, which failed in 2003. Competed in several IFBB shows from 2006-2009. Received another kidney transplant in 2011.

    3.   Flex Wheeler: NPC competitor from 1989 to 1992. One of the best IFBB pros from 1993 to 2000 with a total of 17 first place wins. He made 2nd place at the Mr. Olympia three times (’93, ’98, ’99) and two-time top 4 at the Olympia (’96 and ’00).

    Suffered kidney failure and “officially” retired in 2000, age 35. Competed twice more, 7th place at the ’02 Mr. Olympia (supposedly drug-free) and 3rd at the ’03 Ironman. Received a kidney transplant in 2003.

    4.   Orville Burke: NPC Heavyweight in 1996 and 1997 and Super-heavyweight in 1998. Frequent IFBB top 10 competitor from 1999 to 2002, including 1st at the 2001 Night of Champions and 1st at the ’01 Toronto Pro. Two-time top 10 at the Mr. Olympia. Fell into a six-week coma after complications during surgery in 2002, age 39.

    5.   Mike Morris: NPC competitor from 1990 to 1997. IFBB pro from 2001 to 2005. Retired in 2005 after developing signs of kidney problems, age 35.

    1.  Akcakoyun, et al. Long-term anabolic androgenic steroid use is associated with increased atrial electromechanical delay in male bodybuilders. Biomed Res Int. 2014.
    2.  Achar, Suraj, et al. Cardiac and metabolic effects of anabolic-androgenic steroid abuse on lipids, blood pressure, left ventricular dimensions, and rhythm. American Journal of Cardiology, September 2010;106(6):893-901.
    3.  Herlitz LC, et al. Development of focal segmental glomerulosclerosis after anabolic steroid abuse. J Am Soc Nephrol. 2010 Jan;21(1):163-72.
    4.  Herman, Christopher W., et al. The very high premature mortality rate among active professional wrestlers is primarily due to cardiovascular disease. PLoS One. November 2014; 9(11): e109945.
    5.  Baron, Sherry L., et al. Body mass index, playing position, race, and the cardiovascular mortality of retired professional football players. American Journal of Cardiology, September 2011. Volume 109, Issue 6, 889 – 896.

  59. David C says

    Scott Klein died at 30…
    Ron Teufel died at 45.
    Dan Duchaine died at 48
    Mohammed Benaziza died at 28 …
    Andreas Munzer died at 30 …
    Mike Mentzer died at 49…
    Ray Mentzer died at 47…
    Don Ross died at 55.
    Dr. John Tristany died.
    Don Peters died.
    Ray Raridon died.
    Garry Kendal Mr Europe who used to train at Stan’s Gym Upminster died in his 30s.
    David Sing from Stan’s Gym in Upminster died at 27 years old.

    Steroid Health Risks
    Dennis Newman (leukemia)
    Orville Burke (coma)
    Don Long (kidney failure)
    Tom Prince (kidney failure)
    Flex Wheeler (kidney transplant)
    Tom Prince (kidney failure)
    Ed Corney (stroke)
    Boyer Coe (heart)
    Danny Padilla (heart)
    Pete Grymkowski (heart)
    Mike Martarazzo 39 (triple bypass heart surgery)

  60. Glen johns says

    Dear team is this the best stuff for muscle building fast gains? I seem to get no where and try’d ever thing. Can you get them in New Zealand? Please help me.

  61. Chandler says

    Hey, I’m 15, 6’1 (almost 6’2) and weight almost 200 lbs, I’m also a health and muscle freak lol, I’m looking to get fucking jacked as I do wrestling for a sport. With my above average size, would it be safe to take smaller doses of this? Yes i am very healthy, no existing health problems, and no occurring health problems.

  62. Benny says

    Victor, sorry but i’m a bit confused now…on a few articles here you trash talking steroids, and in this article you support and recommend a random small chemical roid pill…Why is that? So does that mea, no more clean training for you?
    That’s sad cause i actually found it really nice, that finally i felt like i found a true non bullshit steroids site :(

  63. Candy says

    Hi Victor, I was a body builder until 4 years ago! Totally Clean! Had many surgerys and now my skin sags! I just want to get a jump start with my muscles again that’s all! Will this be a good product for me? And what is pct? Do I add this? Only want to use 4 weeks most! Thx

  64. John henderson says


    How’s it going? I do hope that this am not bothering you. My name is John … So nice to “meet you” in a sense. My question is this, I am 31 years old, and I am athletic. I do go to the gym about 4-5 days a week but I’m not gaining the muscle I wamt… Perhaps I’m taking the wrong things. I’ve been doing the jacks 3d,with the agmentine 500,test powder and compound 20, all by usplabs, then cyto gainer as my protein shake. I came across this product and was very interested. You seem like a very knowledgable man and that is why I’m asking you your thoughts. If I do take dmz, what do I stack it with? Your response would be greatly appreciated, if better my email is xxxxxx, thank you again.


  65. John henderson says


    How’s it going? I do hope that this am not bothering you. My name is John … So nice to “meet you” in a sense. My question is this, I am 31 years old, and I am athletic. I do go to the gym about 4-5 days a week but I’m not gaining the muscle I wamt… Perhaps I’m taking the wrong things. I’ve been doing the jacks 3d,with the agmentine 500,test powder and compound 20, all by usplabs, then cyto gainer as my protein shake. I came across this product and was very interested. You seem like a very knowledgable man and that is why I’m asking you your thoughts. If I do take dmz, what do I stack it with? Your response would be greatly appreciated, if better my email is [email protected], thank you again.


  66. NH says

    All steroids carry a degree of risk with them. But lets make something clear – they are not going to end your life, give you cancer or make you drop dead in 20 years (like smoking, drinking, being fat). Perma blasting (which is what top bodybuilders do, always on an insane amount) is where things such as cholesterol and liver problems kick in.

    Ok this protocol will give you good gains and all the tools to deal with the side effects:

    Weeks 1-12 (Up to 16 weeks. Test only kicks in for me after 8 weeks, most people feel it after 5 weeks) 500mg a week of Test C/E

    Weeks 1-6 50mg a day of Dbol or Weeks 1-3 20mg a Day Superdrol

    After 12-16 weeks of Test usage, 2 weeks of nothing after your last injection.


    Weeks 1 and 2: 40mg of Nolvadex a day
    Weeks 3 and 4: 20 mg of Nolvadex a day

    To improve PCT you can add in 50mg of Clomid a day for 4 weeks – Nolvadex will do the job for most people.

    HAVE an AI (Aromasin or Adex) on hand in case you get estrogen side effects. Start taking this (do some research through google for dosages) to prevent it.

    This will put a load of mass on you. I added 20lbs doing this and added 25% to all my lifts.

    I personally think cycling is stupid as you will lose a large % of your gains while your natty test recovers – you also will lose a lot of intramuscular water (which adds a large amount of strength). Expect to keep around 5-15lbs depending on how close to your natty potential you are.

    Blasting and cruising is what you should do if you plan to run more than 1 cycle ever. You will not have a test crash, you keep all your gains and you dont lose any strength or power. You also can run more blasts a year (blood work returns to normal far faster).

  67. Tyler says

    Vic, I have been in the gym for a few years now and I think I have hit a plateau. I havent seen any significant amount of gains; even during my bulk it feels like I just put on a lot of fat on. Any ideas to break the plateau?